that´s thai : mai = not, chop = like, gohok = lie

Sunday, December 27, 2009

no religion please


MUMBAI: At an airy, spacious flat overlooking a verdant green patch in Versova, a three-week-old baby boy sleeps in his little cot. His mother Aditi Shedde, glowing with newly acquired motherhood, is on her toes; she flits in and out of the room, asking the ayah to change the infant's nappy and cover him in a sanitised towel. The baby is kept at arms' length when the flat's expensive marble floor is mopped and sofas dusted several times a day.

So what's so different about this new-born who's being cossetted in his prosperous home? Well, he has no religion. His Hindu Maharashtrian mother and Gujarati Muslim father have decided to leave the choice to him when he grows up. By itself, that may not be overly unusual; there are very many people who give similar choices to their children.

Where Aditi and her husband Aalif Surti differ is that they chose to battle an unremitting bureaucracy from the very start and refused to fill in the column titled 'Religion' in their child's most basic document, the birth certificate.

It wasn't a spur-of-the-moment decision. "A few months into my pregnancy, we had decided that we would not give our child any religious identity," says Aditi. "We are not against religion, but who are we to choose a religion on our baby's behalf? We will expose him to the values of different faiths and cultures, and when he grows up he will be free to follow any faith—or none if he wishes."

Of course, getting the birth certificate wasn't easy. The first hurdle cropped up at the hospital itself—the authorities were alarmed when the young parents said they would leave the religion column blank in the documents.

Every hospital has to intimate the BMC about new births within 15 days, on the basis of which the BMC issues birth certificates. "You will have to talk to the officer in the BMC," a hospital staff member told the couple.
"Since Aditi speaks fluent Marathi, I asked her to patao the municipality," says Aalif, creative director with a film production and distribution company. Next, Aditi was at the K-ward (Andheri) office of the BMC, bracing for the battle ahead.

"Are you ashamed of your Hindu identity? Why don't you want your child to be known as a Hindu?" an officer asked her rudely. Aditi shot back that while she was proud of her Hindu roots, she was not a practising Hindu. "Why in a democratic, secular country can't parents take a decision like not giving any religion to their children?" she asked the officer.

Unconvinced, the officer cited a more technical problem—birth certificates these days are generated via automated machines, which reject an application form if any column is left blank. When Aditi persisted, she was eventually led to a higher authority. "This officer heard me patiently and said he appreciated my feelings, but again pointed out the same technical problem. He also said he had never received such a request in his career—to which I told him there was always a first time," recalls Aditi.

The couple had almost hit a dead end. There were four choices on the form—Hindu, Muslim, Christian and Others. Aditi says she did not want any of them for her child, as even Others required them to identify the sect or community. She argued with the officer some more and finally agreed on Others, but without any identification. "Others is just to facilitate the generation of the certificate. We know our child has no religion," she says.

The couple attributes their decision to their liberal upbringing. Aditi grew up in Kuwait, where she had many Muslim classmates and even picked up a few verses from the Quran. Aalif, son of Abid Surti—a popular writer-cartoonist who counts Osho Rajneesh, Atal Bihari Vajpayee and Amitabh Bachchan among his fans—grew up in what was then a more cosmopolitan Bandra. Said 75-year-old Abid: "I never wanted any particular religious identity for my two sons. I failed to get their birth certificates without the mention of religion, but I am glad my son and bahu have succeeded in what I failed years ago."

Aalif and Aditi might have crossed the first barrier. But it's just the beginning of the several hurdles which are bound to crop up ahead—at the time of school admission or securing a passport for the child, for instance. "We are prepared for those battles too," says Aditi determinedly. Meanwhile, the baby plays in the pram, blissfully unaware of the unique identity his parents have secured for him.

kagyu monlam live

Saturday, October 24, 2009

jobs at never not here

Jobs now open at Never Not Here
(some remuneration involved)

Producer: new guests, scheduling, show host (hey I'll do that)

Show Director: (run all the dials and switches, monitor each show, set-up and tear-down, audio and visuals, some travel)

Editing and Archive Captain: (you got to know Final Cut and have a powerful computer, I'll make them as fast as you can fix them.)

Web Master: It will be Drupal, and you got to make it dance.

Social Media and Marketing: Let's get the word out there, in a big way

Financial Officer and Funding, We're all counting on you.

Sunday, October 4, 2009

Thursday, July 30, 2009

true spirituality

"No matter how much you strive to acquire any worldly gains, they are bound to go, so also your concepts and various identities.

Even if you follow any religion in the hope of obtaining something permanent from the outside, you will be sorely disappointed.

The main purpose of true spirituality is to liberate oneself completely from one's concepts and conditionings."

Nisargadatta



Wednesday, June 24, 2009

a message from suu kyi

June 23, 2009 (DVB)–Burma’s opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi has expressed her regret that she cannot personally thank those who marked her birthday on Friday, according to lawyers who met with Suu Kyi yesterday.

The National League for Democracy leader was allowed to meet with her four legal representatives yesterday afternoon at her unit inside Insein prison.

According to lawyer Nyan Win, they discussed the legal tools available in her ongoing trial, the next hearing of which is scheduled for 26 June.

"One thing I can say now is, she said thank you to all those who wish her happy birthday, home and abroad,” he said, adding that she stressed to her well-wishers to “please understand that I can't thank you individually now”.

To mark her birthday she had ordered 50 packets of Biryani rice, chocolate cake and flowers to be distributed to fellow staff and inmates, and was able to carry this out, said Nyan Win.

Tomorrow lawyers of Suu Kyi will argue for the inclusion of two witnesses, Tin Oo and Win Tin. Both were disqualified by judges in May, but the court has accepted an appeal to reconsider their admittance.

A third witness, Khin Mo Mo, a supreme court lawyer from Shan state’s Taunggyi, who was initially disqualified but later readmitted will find out on 26 June the date she will be appearing as a witness.

Suu Kyi reportedly reiterated yesterday her frustration at the lack of legal transparency in Burma.

“It is very important that there is the rule of law here; it has been very weak,” Nyan Win quoted her as saying.

“The rule of law is the most important thing.”

Reporting by Naw Say Phaw

Sunday, June 14, 2009

sam blight on never not here


at min.52 of this talk the 2 guys discover,
that they have both been with osho
and then it gets quite interesting.

Friday, June 12, 2009

who is god ?





mooji is live this sunday june 14th 2009 on nevernothere
at 01:00 pm chicago time / 20:00 german time

Saturday, May 23, 2009

unanswered questions








gangaji starts blogging

huffingtonpost.com/gangaji/open-mind_b_206554

Open Mind

With all the activities our lives are dedicated to, it is easy and usual to overlook the fulfillment present in this actual moment. In service to our goal-oriented minds, we usually neglect to stop our internal chatter for even just a few seconds. When I use the word "stop" here, I am referring to internal, mental stopping. It is lovely and essential for our physical, mental, and social health to periodically stop activity. Time off is nourishing to all our "parts" and to all our relationships. And obviously without adequate physical rest we become ill.

Being willing to give some of our precious time to physical retreat, whether for a weekend or longer is truly a gift to our selves and our relations, and I recommend it highly.

But I'm speaking here of something much simpler and more readily available. Something so simple that nothing has to change (or not change) for it to be seen.

In the midst of some activity, even the activity of reading this now, it is completely possible to allow your mind to open fully, and in that opening to discover the peace and fulfillment of your own spacious awareness.

No place to go, no thing to get, no goal to be realized; no body to change no perfection to be attained. Simply, in this very moment, you can recognize what is always here. Here underneath all the lists and underneath all the victories and defeats.

In meeting yourself, free of all should's and must's and will's, for even a moment, you realize that even if nothing gets fixed or done, simple natural fulfillment is already here.

Of course there is much in our world, our bodies, and our minds that could use fixing. And part of the human evolutionary thrust is to use our mental capacities to discover what is wrong-outside and inside-and then to begin the work of correction by removal or augmentation. What a truly awesome power of mind. It is a hallmark of the capacity of the human brain.

The problem arises when this evolving, mistake searching aspect of mind rules the life form called by your name. And this problem is huge in our culture.

How much of your attention is focused on what is wrong with yourself or other?

When we see how much is wrong or harmful in our thinking and our and others' actions, we can be overwhelmed by the tasks revealed. This overwhelm can result in giving up and reverting to cynicism or in strengthening our resolve to work even harder. To think and do more.

I am actually suggesting that before the overwhelm, or even in the midst of overwhelm, it is possible to stop, if only for a moment, and return to silence. In that moment, there is the recognition that to be internally free and at peace, nothing needs to be done.

Even a moment of true silence allows for true choice, for authentic, appropriate action or non-action to follow.

Some spiritual traditions refer to this silence as no mind. But for me that term is too close to mindless as in ignorant or stupid. I prefer the term open mind. The open mind is spacious and aware. It finds nourishment in itself, intelligent and aware without the need to follow thought.

In truth, all creative and fresh thinking comes out of this nourishment of aware silence. And it is available for you right now.

Saturday, April 25, 2009

ave maria

gurus



gurdjieff on reincarnation

http://www.articles3k.com/article/198/147288/Gurdjieff_and_Mind_Controllers_1/ :

Occultist students would ask Gurdjieff about life after death, reincarnation, and so on, and he would reply that for most people, death is indeed the ultimate end, you go out like a light and that is it. Only for those who had persistently labored to develop a soul, a real, permanent, unchangeable "I," was there any possibility that some essential quality of their being would survive the death of the physical body.


http://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/philo_reincarnation.htm :

Gurdjieff taught that, contrary to conventional belief, man is not born with a Soul, but has to create one through personal effort. He taught further that the conventional belief that reincarnation involves the return of the soul to a physical body on earth is wrong.


http://www.sott.net/articles/show/108570-Gurdjieff-on-Reincarnation :

Many things are possible," said G. "But it is necessary to understand that man's being, both in life and after death, if it does exist after death, may be very different in quality.

The 'man-machine' with whom everything depends upon external influences, with whom everything happens, who is now one, the next moment another, and the next moment a third, has no future of any kind; he is buried and that is all. Dust returns to dust. This applies to him.

In order to be able to speak of any kind of future life there must be a certain crystallization, a certain fusion of man's inner qualities, a certain independence of external influences. If there is anything in a man able to resist external influences, then this very thing itself may also be able to resist the death of the physical body.

But think for yourselves what there is to withstand physical death in a man who faints or forgets everything when he cuts his finger?

Sunday, April 19, 2009

never not here



mogulus.com/nevernothere

nevernothere.com

nevernothere.com/videopage

nevernothere.com/archive

live events (chicago times) :

Sunday May 10th 12:00 noon Florian Schlosser
Special guest after Florian, Kenny Johnson
Wednesday May 13th 7:00 pm Bernie Prior
Sunday May 17th 1:00 pm Jeff Foster
Wednesday May 20th 7:00 pm Jim Dreaver
Special guest after Jim, Peter Francis Dziuban
Sunday May 24th 1:00 pm Rick Linchitz
After Rick, Jac O'Keeffe will be on
Wednesday May 27th 7:00 pm Unmani
Sunday May 31st 1:00 pm Unmani Satsangs
(will probably be a mini retreat all day)
Wednesday June 3rd, 7:00 pm Paul Hedderman
Sunday June 7th, 1:00 pm Gaia from Germany
Wednesday June 10th 7:00 pm Katie Davis
Sunday June 14th 1:00 pm Mooji
Wednesday June 17th 7:00 pm Ellie Roozdar
Wednesday June 24th 7:00 pm Peter Dziuban
Wednesday July 1st 7:00 pm Kenny Johnson
Wednesday July 8th 7:00 pm Elizabeth MacDonald